Let be an irreducible representation of a finite group Say that is tensor indecomposable if any isomorphism implies that either or is a character.

In conversations with Matt and Toby (which permeate the rest of this post as well), the following problem came up:

**Question**: Let be a finite group. Let be an irreducible representation of Is there a unique decomposition

of as a tensor product of tensor indecomposable representations (up to re-ordering and twist)? I don’t think this can be too hard, but I confess I don’t see how to do it. (Since we didn’t really need this, we didn’t think about it too hard.)

(**edit**: when I say I don’t think this can be too hard, I don’t mean to imply that I think it is true; just that I think either a proof or counterexample should not be too hard to find — hopefully not both.)

One can ask an analogous problem for Lie groups. Actually, the problem for Lie algebras is actually quite simple (and the answer is positive). It is related to the following:

**Lemma:**

Let and be irreducible non-trivial representations of a simple Lie group Then is reducible.

**Proof:** Assume that is irreducible. In particular, it is determined by its highest weight. Let the highest weights of and be and respectively. Then the highest weight of must be But now, by the Weyl character formula, we deduce that

The product term can also be written as:

In particular, since the pairing is non-negative between positive roots and highest weights, we deduce a contradiction unless

for all The assumption that is irreducible, however, is equivalent to saying that has a maximal root and for such a maximal root, we have

Note that this lemma is actually a special case of a theorem of Rajan, who proved that, for simple the factors of a (not necessarily irreducible) tensor product are determined by the representation. In particular, the tensor product of two non-trivial irreducible representations cannot be irreducible.

The problem with the initial question is that it’s hard to construct tensor products of irreducible representations which are irreducible. Or rather, it is easy, simply by taking where is an irreducible representation of and is an irreducible representation of and the tensor is irreducible for Yet the interesting case is something closer to assuming that and are faithful. Actually, this motivates the following question:

**Question:** Do there exist irreducible non-trivial representations and of a finite simple non-abelian group such that is irreducible?

The argument above for Lie groups suggests that this may not happen for Chevelley groups (although it certainly doesn’t prove this). It also suggests (relating the representation theory of and to ) that it doesn’t happen for the alternating groups either. It almost surely doesn’t happen for the sporadic groups either. So my guess that the answer to the problem above is no, and that this is probably known, and probably requires classification. (Please comment if you know the answer.) Actually, this also reminds me of a similar problem which I think is open.

**Question:** Fix N. Does there exist a non-trivial representation of a finite group of dimension N such that (of dimension ) is irreducible?

This question came up in my paper with Barry, where I was surprised to find very few examples. I seem to remember that the Mathieu group has an -dimensional representation whose corresponding 120 dimensional adjoint is irreducible. Can one classify all such examples coming from simple groups?

About the last question, it corresponds to the representation having “fourth moment” equal to $2$ in the terminology of Katz in his “Larsen alternative” paper. In Section 1.5 of that paper, he gives examples arising from the Weil representation (and says that he got them from Deligne).In Section 1.6, he gives examples from the Atlas (including some cases for M_{23}, M_{24} and J_4).

I’m was confused why the list doesn’t contain M_{12}, and then checked that it is false for M_{12}, and I must have read the character table wrong, oops! For those playing at home, Katz’ paper can be found here:

https://web.math.princeton.edu/~nmk/moments-67.pdf

If you look at mod p reps then it is very often that irreducible reps are tensor product of other irreducible reps. e.g. $G=\SL_2(\mathbb F_q)$ then every irreducible $\overline{\mathbb F}_p$ rep is a tensor product of some symmetric powers of the standard rep twisted by Frobenius.

It is related to another nice thing in the Lie group case, which I’ve always wanted to understand better: the “PRV conjecture” (proved by S. Kumar in 1989) says that in fact $V(\lambda + w \mu)$ occurs at least once inside $V(\lambda) \otimes V(\mu)$ for each $w$ in the Weyl group.

Apologies in advance, as my grasp on the material is very shaky…

I think the answer to the first question is negative. Here is an example. Let V be a vector space over a field F = F_p, where p is an odd prime (let’s say, dim V = 4). Then we have a canonical 2-step nilpotent p-group G which is a central extension

1-> \wedge^2 V -> G -> V -> 1.

Fix a primitive additive character \psi of F. Given a skew 2-form f on V of rank 2r, we have a unique irreducible representations W(f) of G of dimension p^r where the center \wedge^2 V acts through \psi(f) and Ker(f) acts trivially. Let \omega be a symplectic form on V. For any decomposition

\omega = f_1 + f_2

of \omega (which has rank 4) into a sum of rank 2 forms, we have a maximal factorization

W(\omega) = W(f_1) \otimes W(f_2).

So if we have another splitting

\omega = f_1′ + f_2′,

we also have

W(\omega) = W(f_1′) \otimes W(f_2′).

These factorizations are equivalent by an element of Sp(4, F) which maps f_1 to f_1′ and f_2 to f_2′. However, let us choose the two splittings randomly, and let U \subset \wedge^2 V be the common kernel of f_1, f_1′, f_2, f_2′ as linear functions on \wedge^2 V. Then U is 3-dimensional (since there is only one linear relation between f_1, f_2, f_1′, f_2′) and all the representations in question are representations of G’ = G/U. Also I think that in general G’ probably does not have an automorphism f_1, f_2 to f_1′, f_2′ (where would it map f_1′, f_2′?). Also I think one can do this in the case of larger dim V. E.g. for dim V = 6 we can take

\omega = f_1 + f_2 + f_3 = f_1′ + f_2′,

where f_2′ has rank 4 and others have rank 2. Then we will even get two maximal factorizations with different number of factors.

I think the answer to the second question is also negative. Let k be the field of order p^2, p > 5, G’ = Sl(2, V) where V is a 2-dimensional k-vector space G = G’/\pm 1. Then G is a simple group and the map Fr: k -> k, a -> a^p induces an automorphism Fr: G -> G. Let r: G-> Gl(Sym^2(V)) be the natural action, r’ = r \circ Fr. Then r \otimes r’ is irreducible.

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